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Should I modify or...?

Started by Mr Bond, January 31, 2021, 08:45:03 AM

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Mr Bond

I'm not new to airguns but I'm new to Rapids, despite having a Mk1 and MFR decades ago. I just didn't mess with them and just shot them instead.

Some say this is what they are for???

Anyway, questions.
I have a Mk1 Elan, the action is almost new and is unworked and unblemished.

The stock is a GinB RH but it has the standard stock in LH too.
I have (inbound) a "Tactical"  ::) stock from Happydude, off his TM500 I think. Plus a barrel and shroud in my favoured .177.

Do I cut my losses and sell the Elan as it is and buy a Mk2 to work on or play about with the Mk1?

Nothing I do will be non reversable.

Ideas and guidance most welcome!
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Mr Bond

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Mr Bond

I don't want to go down the bottle route as (sorry) I just find them ugly, be it on a Rapid, FX or whatever.
I'll be using a modded Winerack HW tube probably with a Huma reg inside.
The trigger is sorted on the Elan, works lovely now compared to stock so no massive advantage there with the Mk2.

I beleive this action is shorter, so would have fun making it look (sweet but I will).

Anyone know the physical differences on the Mk1 and 2 please?
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Mr Bond

I just checked on here, was made in March 1999. Great resource, thanks!
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Squinty

the physical difference between the two in regards to changing stocks

the mk2 only uses the front mounting bolt and sits about 4mm further back in the stock.

The cut out for the gamo trigger is also different  to the mk4 and the back corner of the gamo unit can sit unevenly.


Mr Bond

Great info and just what I needed.  :)

Any opinions on going Mk2 and selling the Elan as is?
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Mr Bond

I suppose I'm asking if the Mk1 can be msde to perform to a high standard given the availability of aftermarket parts and ideas from the likes of KevG and DrBob?
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Daveyb

I have a MK1 and that's had a kevg reg fitted, all his internals and double inertia weight system as well as his moderator, haven't tried it yet it's waiting to be posted back to me, I prefer the mk1 over the mk2 because you can do want you want with it.

A MK1 isn't regged so you have to find the sweet spot on fill pressure and shot count too, where the mk 2 is regged so consistent till it drops of the reg,

It depends if you want to tinker with it or shoot it

Mr Bond

I'm deffo a tinkerer Davey. I have some bits inbound to make something nice.
I love to shoot but get just as much if not more, from the build and challenges.

I don't think I own a standard rifle!
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Mr Bond

Thinking on, I have got a standard rifle, a late 30s Webley Service MkII. 
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Daveyb

Yes I have a MK1 and mk 2 Mercury standard lol,

I fitted kevg reg myself and new seal kit about 6 years ago, when I stripped it I polished all the internals to a mirror finish and only the o rings got molykote 33, everything was smooth and consistent after that and enjoyed just sitting there polishing it too lol

Mr Bond

My plans are slightly fluid at the moment but I've talked to Kev about a double tap hammer. I thought hard about one of his Mk1 regs too but the Huma in a modded Weihrauch air cyl is making more sense to me at the moment.

A Mk2 block would get me a "better" trigger, but tbh I have no big issue with the 10 bob Gsmo trigger.

I made a little roller, cleaned, lubed and adjusted it and it's nice now
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Daveyb

Are the huma regs good on a hw100 then ? Just the wife has a 100 and might get that modded

Mr Bond

On the HW the rdg is in the reciever block and has to be bridged to let the Huma work.

The Huma sits in the end of the air tube and references atmospheric pressure by removing the valve end O ring.
A perfect solution as it will give a quickfill. Gauge and reg in one component.
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