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Title: 12ltr 300bar bottle.
Post by: KCE on August 04, 2020, 01:49:47 PM
I have just rang our dive centre up as I have been waiting for them to re open due to covid.
They have told me they can fill my bottle but not to 300 bar as they can no longer fill tank in water due to covid transfer.
China has a lot to answer for.
So running an fac on low air wont last for long.
Regards Kev.
Title: Re: 12ltr 300bar bottle.
Post by: nevadacowboy on August 04, 2020, 03:29:19 PM
My local dive centre does not put bottles in water but still fills to 300 bar. It just takes a bit longer.
Title: Re: 12ltr 300bar bottle.
Post by: Kernal on August 04, 2020, 03:34:36 PM
Why would they put the bottle in water,  is it to keep it cooler when filling.

Title: Re: 12ltr 300bar bottle.
Post by: Ca_Varminter on August 04, 2020, 04:30:02 PM
Quote from: Kernal on August 04, 2020, 03:34:36 PM
Why would they put the bottle in water,  is it to keep it cooler when filling.
Come on now Kernal...
Being an Engineer!!
For these dive shops, they want to do Fast Fills..
Well, the problem is compressing air generates HEAT!!
This problem is Magnified in Carbon Fiber Tanks!!

So the HEAT affects the fill!
Because as the tank cools, the pressure will drop!!
So if you pay for a 300 Bar fill... you will end up with mabe a 270 bar fill..

So when I use my compressor... No water bath....but i use a damp towel wrap!!
I will hit mark of 300 bar(4500 psi)
Then I just let air cool off for 20 min.. Then Top it Off!!
If I want a True 300 bar(4500 psi) fill, I may top it off a several times!!

Stuart
Title: Re: 12ltr 300bar bottle.
Post by: Ca_Varminter on August 04, 2020, 04:55:56 PM
https://youtu.be/3vVIf0HkqHU
Title: Re: 12ltr 300bar bottle.
Post by: Kernal on August 04, 2020, 05:29:14 PM
I`m not an Engineer or anything like that and tbh i never knew you had to put your bottle in water to fill it up or wrap a towel around your bottle to keep it cool,
But thats a good tip for when my m8 fills my bottle up when i get my hose to connect to his compressor,

P:s whats the video about thats tagged to this thread ?

Regards
Title: Re: 12ltr 300bar bottle.
Post by: Ca_Varminter on August 04, 2020, 11:02:15 PM
The Videos is the explosion that just happen in Beirut....
The other news video shows a fire burning with live ammo exploding...
Just before the major explosion!!

They are claiming fireworks Fire!!!!!

Stuart
Title: Re: 12ltr 300bar bottle.
Post by: Kernal on August 05, 2020, 08:15:09 AM
OMG Stuart i`ve just seen the live footage on the news thats a horrible thing to happen,  That explosion took out a full building and all the live`s that have been lost :(   That was a horrible thing to watch,
I`ve just seen that on my Daily mail icon update on windows10 , OMG it also shook the man that was recording it,

:(
Title: Re: 12ltr 300bar bottle.
Post by: Ca_Varminter on August 05, 2020, 02:46:50 PM
Well the cause...
Mass amounts of Ammonium  Nitrate....2700 tons
For perspective, when the home-grown terrorist bomb the Fed. building in Oklahoma City..
Only 2.5 tons were used!!

Stuart