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Title: Barrel Replacement
Post by: Higgleplog on March 16, 2024, 05:20:16 PM
Hopefully ive found KevG. Hi i have a .22 early MK1 1258. Im inquiring as to what options are avaliable to change to .177. Ive seen blanks from various companies, also read previous posts about machineing required to convert as well as pellet probe etc.Interested in your regulator if one exsists for my gun.
Its a 12ftlb gun with the bean can moderator.Im competant to strip and rebuild as i have revalved twice. ive had the gun about 32ish years.Open to suggestions as you have probably done dozens,and i only want to do this once. Thank you.
Title: Re: Barrel Replacement
Post by: Mickyd on March 17, 2024, 12:41:16 PM
Put a wanted add up for a .177 barrel,you might get lucky.md
Title: Re: Barrel Replacement
Post by: KevG on March 17, 2024, 01:37:42 PM
silco do the barrel blanks
kevG
Title: Re: Barrel Replacement
Post by: angrybear on March 17, 2024, 04:38:49 PM
Used barrels do come up for sale but can sell for utterly insane prices, as you have a working rifle trying to do a swap (barrel, mag & probe) on whatever sites you're on, might be worth trying.
Title: Re: Barrel Replacement
Post by: Higgleplog on March 17, 2024, 10:47:50 PM
Thank you for your replys. so is changing barrels/calibers not something required by owners? i didnt realise. I wouldnt consider exchange as i wish to keep all the original .22 parts. Last winter i made a stock from a Ergo grip and Magpul stock,just to see if the ergonomics worked. its fustrating to have ideas and not be able to action them because of cost or lack of skill/facility. ill keep looking see what come up,thanks again.
Title: Re: Barrel Replacement
Post by: Ca_Varminter on March 17, 2024, 11:51:37 PM
Yes, you can change calibers, just as long as you have the Proper Parts....
Our Dr Bob can supply your the Inner Probe, Outer Probe, and Mag..
If you get a blank from Silco.. KevG or Dr Bob's machinist can machine it up...
Or if you get a Rapid Barrel...will help the project along a bit(No Machining)

Good Luck,
Stuart
Title: Re: Barrel Replacement
Post by: Higgleplog on March 19, 2024, 05:40:38 PM
Hello again.
 Checked out the Silco site, they do Weihrauch barrels, i assume that a 16mm is required @ 495mm long. do i get choked or unchoked? i know what a choke is because i have shotguns, but dont know enough about air rifle ballistics to know which is required. Also whats the approx cost of all engineering including screw cutting for a moderator? i see the barrel isnt blued,is there a service for that, or do people fit shrouds now? If this is feasible im serious about going ahead with this.
Title: Re: Barrel Replacement
Post by: Higgleplog on March 19, 2024, 06:19:47 PM
Check that, there site says out of stock, will phone tomorrow.
Title: Re: Barrel Replacement
Post by: Squinty on March 20, 2024, 12:45:33 PM
An option consider- if you can get hold of one.
HW100 factory barrel- full length 600mm,£132
 screwcut and blued, needs shortening to required length and porting.
o/d is variable  15.90-16mm- as the HW100 breech is reduced bore centre v o/d may need checking, possibly sleeving.
I have one on my S-type-alike, great with JSB 10.3, Barracuda- superfields
Title: Re: Barrel Replacement
Post by: Higgleplog on March 21, 2024, 10:09:56 AM
Theres a company called TWC who sell Lother Walther barrels in .177
the options are: 16mm x 615mm 1 in 17.7 twist. 16mm x 615mm no choke 1 in 17.7twist. 16mm x 605mm polygon rifling 1 in 17.7 twist. which if any would be suitable? Thanks again.
Title: Re: Barrel Replacement
Post by: Squinty on March 21, 2024, 11:05:30 AM
Choked polygon would be the preference of many, if the machining is done right there's little between poly and 12 groove until you start counting points around the X-ring.

Choked! the three unchoked .22 blanks I've had made up (2x12groove 1xpoly) have been 100% fussier unlike older barrels that have improved with the chokes relieved or cut off.
You can work with a choke.

IMO LW blanks are now over priced particularly as you're going to cut 40-60 quids worth off for a sub-12 barrel (16-19")
Add on £60-70 for machining + blacking, postage to and fro. £300+?
Title: Re: Barrel Replacement
Post by: Higgleplog on March 21, 2024, 04:09:57 PM
Had a look for the HW100 barrel in .177 and its out of stock at the same company. ill keep looking
Title: Re: Barrel Replacement
Post by: Squinty on March 21, 2024, 06:30:06 PM
potentially HW100 tuning?
Might even machine it for you, he does a bit of rapid work too.
If not go may have to go for the silco or LW
Title: Re: Barrel Replacement
Post by: Higgleplog on March 23, 2024, 10:00:19 AM
I have checked today, and Silco have the .177 16mm 495mm choked barrel in stock. unless advised otherwise, im going to order one on Monday.
Title: Re: Barrel Replacement
Post by: Higgleplog on March 23, 2024, 10:02:29 AM
Thats the Weihrauch barrel i was refering to.
Title: Re: Barrel Replacement
Post by: Squinty on March 23, 2024, 01:29:34 PM
Go for it, Kev could machine the barrel and a dedicated slip on mod all in one hit.
Could paint, black or use a carbon tube as a finisher.
Simplest option without getting it screwcut- just gave another to consider with two processes already done.
Title: Re: Barrel Replacement
Post by: Higgleplog on March 23, 2024, 02:28:07 PM
Is Kev up for that? Because if hes prepared to do it,i,ll have the barrel sent to him.
Title: Re: Barrel Replacement
Post by: stillair1 on March 23, 2024, 06:40:12 PM
I may have a spare 16" rapid barrel. get back to you by tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Barrel Replacement
Post by: Higgleplog on March 24, 2024, 08:25:58 AM
If its .177 and in Essex i would be very interested, thank you.
Title: Re: Barrel Replacement
Post by: stillair1 on March 25, 2024, 10:07:52 AM
Pm to you.
Title: Re: Barrel Replacement
Post by: Higgleplog on March 27, 2024, 10:51:54 AM
Just like to thank everybody that helped with information on my barrel replacement. i learnt a fair bit about blank barrels, which was useful. But shoutout to Stilair who sold me a genuine Rapid .177 barrel in decent condition, and who only lives about twenty miles from me. so masses of hassle spared. Ive been onto Dr Bob for the .177 pellet probe and Best fittings for the moderator sleeve. So all good. i will write a report on how the rebuild and set up goes.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Barrel Replacement
Post by: stillair1 on March 30, 2024, 07:46:07 PM
Good to meet. I have a .22 barrel that needs a re porting, a job for kev g.