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Everything Technical About Rapid => Technical => Topic started by: Eddie on July 18, 2022, 12:01:53 PM

Title: Air escaping out the bolt/seal probe
Post by: Eddie on July 18, 2022, 12:01:53 PM
 Hi   got a bit of air blasting out up on shooting, 
  Is there anything I can do to stop that ?
Can you get heavier spring or is there any adjustment there?

Any help be very appreciated  ,

Title: Re: Air escaping out the bolt/seal probe
Post by: jackrooz on July 18, 2022, 12:36:20 PM
by the mag breach end ?
Title: Re: Air escaping out the bolt/seal probe
Post by: Squinty on July 18, 2022, 01:04:07 PM
probably a poor seal between probe and barrel.

Does it have an adjustable bolt/probe? Hole in the back?
Title: Re: Air escaping out the bolt/seal probe
Post by: Eddie on July 18, 2022, 04:09:25 PM
Quote from: Squinty on July 18, 2022, 01:04:07 PM
probably a poor seal between probe and barrel.

Does it have an adjustable bolt/probe? Hole in the back?
no adjustment on this one
Title: Re: Air escaping out the bolt/seal probe
Post by: Eddie on July 18, 2022, 04:14:06 PM
Quote from: Squinty on July 18, 2022, 01:04:07 PM
probably a poor seal between probe and barrel.

Does it have an adjustable bolt/probe? Hole in the back?
Yes that's exactly what's happening mate
Title: Re: Air escaping out the bolt/seal probe
Post by: Squinty on July 18, 2022, 04:28:50 PM
oh well, manual adjustment ...PITA time.

scope off, loosen the barrel and push it back against the probe..all trial and error I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Air escaping out the bolt/seal probe
Post by: Ca_Varminter on July 18, 2022, 04:30:24 PM
Have your removed your barrel recently??
If so, it may be just a simple barrel adjustment.
Also check the breech extension...
Depending on the pellets you shoot, you can get lead deposits here that well prevent a tight seal

So if it is the bolt needs to be adjusted..
(https://photos.imageevent.com/scl_electronics/gun/air/Rapid-Bolts.jpg)
The bottom bolt is the old style non-adjustable.
To tighten it up..Temp solution you can use an O-ring...The right way is to add another wavy washer.
These are placed behind the inner pellet probe!!

Good Luck
Stuart
Title: Re: Air escaping out the bolt/seal probe
Post by: Eddie on July 20, 2022, 04:29:14 PM
 Right I've got it figured out it's not the probe  it's the little grub on the right hand side of the block !
It's blowing out there is a very small hole in the grub !!!!
Title: Re: Air escaping out the bolt/seal probe
Post by: jackrooz on July 20, 2022, 04:36:38 PM
same as before mate

2ba 5/16 grub screw Ptfe or small oring and grub screw another on top
Title: Re: Air escaping out the bolt/seal probe
Post by: angrybear on July 20, 2022, 04:49:16 PM
For there to be pressure behind that screw air is leaking past/around the exhaust valve, so that is what you need to stop  ;)
Title: Re: Air escaping out the bolt/seal probe
Post by: Squinty on July 20, 2022, 05:18:53 PM
Quote from: angrybear on July 20, 2022, 04:49:16 PM
For there to be pressure behind that screw air is leaking past/around the exhaust valve, so that is what you need to stop  ;)

there's an o-ring both sides on the valve body the air is simply taking the route with the lowest resistance.
Title: Re: Air escaping out the bolt/seal probe
Post by: jackrooz on July 20, 2022, 05:31:20 PM
it does only occur on firing
Title: Re: Air escaping out the bolt/seal probe
Post by: Ca_Varminter on July 20, 2022, 08:37:18 PM
The puff of air when you fire your Rapid is due to the Valve-body being a little loose.
The large front O-ring keep air from leaking continuously!!

With the early Rapids that use a grub screw to index it...
Some have used some Teflon Tape...
I like using blue loctite.. A good thread sealant... some use it in place of Teflon Tape.
But use BLUE Loctite, so you can remove the screw without HEAT!!!
In a pinch..steal some nail polish from a female in the house!!!
If you use a sealant, let it set for a couple of hours before you fire it!

Good Luck

Stuart
Title: Re: Air escaping out the bolt/seal probe
Post by: Eddie on July 21, 2022, 06:15:46 AM
 Thank you sorted now no air coming out now , thanks for your help and to everyone 👍🏻
Title: Re: Air escaping out the bolt/seal probe
Post by: jackrooz on July 21, 2022, 11:29:59 AM
what was the method you went with to fis it  so every knows incase someone else suffers with it
Title: Re: Air escaping out the bolt/seal probe
Post by: Eddie on July 21, 2022, 05:02:52 PM
   Ptfe tape works perfectly