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Airguns => Air Pistols => Topic started by: flyfisher on May 25, 2020, 12:16:19 PM

Title: PP 700
Post by: flyfisher on May 25, 2020, 12:16:19 PM
bought this a couple of months back for a bit of backyard plinking, wow what a lovely little gun it is,fitted a folding stock then bought a BSA cadet barrel and had it machined down to fit and screw cut 1/2" fitted a mod and now a quiet performer in .177, gave the barrel a polish inside,  barrel is now 14" long so could be classed as a carbine, (waits for the flack)
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: KCE on May 25, 2020, 12:25:14 PM
A cracking little tool as you say for back yard plinking.
The law here in uk regarding folding stocks is a mine field.
If you are in uk I would check them out to cover yourself m8.
Hope this of some use to you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock_(firearms)#Stock_measurements
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Daztilley on May 28, 2020, 05:11:51 PM
I'm mid build with my pp700 bargain buy (£75) at the moment....
Currently waiting for my HUMA regulator to arrive - fantastic little guns - great potential too 👍
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Daztilley on May 30, 2020, 03:05:35 PM
Well I'm still waiting on the HUMA regulator to arrive - but other than that its setup ready to go 👍
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: The Robin on May 30, 2020, 03:09:44 PM
Very nice matey, looks great. It will run even sweeter once you get the huma reg in it  8)
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: KCE on May 30, 2020, 03:11:14 PM
They are both very nice lightweight unique outfits indeed.
I'm awaiting for a nice mk2 block now so I can start my new project which will be lightweight and unique.

Regards KCE.
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Daztilley on May 30, 2020, 03:40:15 PM
Thanks Kev 👍
Will be interesting to see your mk2 project taking shape 👍👍
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Daztilley on June 03, 2020, 11:49:12 AM
3d printed tri weaver rail adaptor came this morning...
Fitted the fore grip and push button red laser dot

Getting there......
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Daztilley on June 03, 2020, 02:08:24 PM
Just need the HUMA in tube regulator to arrive now - then I can start setting it up over the chrono - am looking for 10.5 fpe ish to allow for a better shot count in .22
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: KCE on June 03, 2020, 02:15:57 PM
Not long now then Daz.
I bet you have that feeling like a young lad in a sweet shop awaiting the last piece to complete your project.

Keep us updated as I'm sure we all would like to see some pics out in the field with it.
Regards Kev.
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Daztilley on June 03, 2020, 03:01:02 PM
I am Kev - do love a good project mate 👍
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Daztilley on June 04, 2020, 09:17:23 PM
HUMA regulator shipped today...... might have a bit of a wait until it shows up......
Did swap out some of the PURPLE o rings for decent o rings today including a new breech seal 👍
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: KCE on June 04, 2020, 09:21:43 PM
Not be long now Daz.
Cant wait to see the finished project.
Regards Kev.
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: JoeB on June 09, 2020, 06:53:52 PM
they are wicked guns.  I fitted a Huma reg to mine as the stock "reg" was naff.  Now it runs a super consistent 5.5ftlb and has taken probably 20-30 rats in a barn where I cant get my Rapid.  I fitted mine with a cheap red dot sight, and only shoot it up to about 15yds range, but its great.  The fact you can decock the hammer also makes it super safe when walking around.
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Daztilley on June 09, 2020, 07:01:26 PM
I love mine mate - brilliant cheap gun that with a bit of work can be made into something very good 👍👍👍 get some pics on Joe 😎
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: JoeB on June 09, 2020, 07:09:05 PM
This is mine...
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Replay on June 09, 2020, 07:10:23 PM
OMG that looks so cool JoeB, i`m starting to think your into your target shooting in a very big way.

8)
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: JoeB on June 09, 2020, 07:13:47 PM
More hunting than Target shooting.  Although I do run a air rifle range so get a fair bit of practice!
I also love the shotguns, so shoot clays and the odd pigeon when I can.
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Daztilley on June 09, 2020, 07:19:21 PM
Spot on Joe 👍 just what you need round the barns mate 😎
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Replay on June 09, 2020, 07:19:37 PM
I can`t stop looking at the pistol, airweapons have come along way since i was a kid, thats for sure!
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: JoeB on June 09, 2020, 07:32:08 PM
Quote from: Daztilley on June 09, 2020, 07:19:21 PM
Spot on Joe 👍 just what you need round the barns mate 😎

It is mate.  The only thing I miss is a magazine, but I couldn't justify the price of the Weihrauch pistol with the magazine!   

One time I was in a barn which also has a cellar with an old wood ladder coming up.  I stood at the hatch looking down, a Rat got spooked and decided it wanted to come up the ladder.  I kid you not it was like superman flying up the rungs!  I panicked, had a shot and missed then was fumbling trying to reload the pistol as the rat came up and ran between my legs!!   I gave myself a good talking to and went back the next time I was there.  Sure enough there was a Rat, and he tried coming up the ladder again... I held my nerve, put the red dot 2 rungs down from the top and waited for him to run into it.  He did, I shot, and he promptly fall backwards like he was in a western!  perfect headshot  :-)
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Replay on June 09, 2020, 07:38:41 PM
Nice shooting JoeB, never tried shooting with a lazer in my time but i can only guess its easy to do.

;)
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: KCE on June 09, 2020, 07:43:12 PM
Yes air pistols have come a very long way indeed.
My last one was a Dianna sp50 gat.
I have seen many new types over the last year or so down the range and they really perform well with great accuracy.
Regards Kev.
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: JoeB on June 09, 2020, 07:44:29 PM
The laser is great for close range work.  I have it zeroed for approx. 10yds which is perfect for in the barns/chicken sheds.  I use the holographic sight if playing at longer ranges although I find this is very reliant on eye alignment and it is super easy to get parallax error.  I don't use the holo sight on the rats.
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Daztilley on June 09, 2020, 07:51:18 PM
A folding stock would help with accuracy over longer distances 👍
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Replay on June 09, 2020, 07:53:50 PM
Oh god yes a fold up stock on that air pistol would look fantastic.
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: KCE on June 09, 2020, 07:59:09 PM
I think it is a fine border line to folding stocks in the uk.
It gets amended each year but im sur ei put it on here somewhere in the past folding stocks.
Regards Kev.
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Daztilley on June 09, 2020, 08:03:52 PM
Here's mine with a folding stock - you're fine to use it if you stay below 6 fpe
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: JoeB on June 09, 2020, 08:09:31 PM
Quote from: Daztilley on June 09, 2020, 07:51:18 PM
A folding stock would help with accuracy over longer distances 👍

Its on my list of things I want to get Daz!

Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Daztilley on June 09, 2020, 08:12:11 PM
Think they are £30 and they fix to the top of the grip with the 2 metal plates removed - just adds a fair bit of stability and accuracy over longer distances 👍 sort of like a sub 6 fpe barn ratter 👍
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Daztilley on June 09, 2020, 08:14:09 PM
They are known as the "budget leshiy" over in the states 😎😎
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Daztilley on June 10, 2020, 07:35:42 PM
Well its arrived......😎😎😎
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Daztilley on June 10, 2020, 07:55:15 PM
Looks like the regulator has been upgraded from the earlier pic - so it takes up less air space too 👍😎
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: KCE on June 10, 2020, 07:58:00 PM
The last part of the project Daz.
Not be long now till you are out in the field with it.
Regards Kev.
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Daztilley on June 10, 2020, 08:00:55 PM
Looking forward to fitting it and getting it setup kev 👍
Could be getting an outing at the weekend too 👍😎
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: KCE on June 10, 2020, 08:09:23 PM
Nice to hear Daz.
I hope to get out this weekend and get some footage with the ATN 4k pro.
Regards Kev.
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Daztilley on June 10, 2020, 08:11:29 PM
Look forward to seeing it kev 👍

Will get some pics on of the pp700 in action - hopefully 👍
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: kennyboy on September 02, 2020, 09:25:06 AM
After reading all of these posts I think I have found a new addition to my Christmas present list  At the moment I have an HW 45 with a HW shoulder stock but really fancy a recoil free pistol. Looking forwards to hearing how it shoots Daz. Ken.
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: JoeB on September 18, 2020, 04:56:42 PM
Quote from: kennyboy on September 02, 2020, 09:25:06 AM
After reading all of these posts I think I have found a new addition to my Christmas present list  At the moment I have an HW 45 with a HW shoulder stock but really fancy a recoil free pistol. Looking forwards to hearing how it shoots Daz. Ken.

These guns really are good with a proper reg fitted.  I had a play the other day in my garage to check zero, and resting the gun it truely was amazing!  I fired 5 shots well inside a 5p grouping with 3 pretty much through the same hole to the point I initially thought I hadnt loaded a pellet and had to look really closely to see the overlap!  all with a cheap £8 red dot sight!
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Daztilley on September 25, 2020, 05:45:17 PM
Yep they are really good 👍  managed to fit the huma reg and its been charged to 200bar - just need to set it up now....
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Robs5230 on September 26, 2020, 08:51:56 AM
Quote from: Daztilley on September 25, 2020, 05:45:17 PM
Yep they are really good 👍  managed to fit the huma reg and its been charged to 200bar - just need to set it up now....
Any updates on this Daz?

Whats the power and shot count ?

I almost bought one with that stock a while ago. It would make a nice ratter for me
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Daztilley on September 26, 2020, 09:22:17 AM
Looking to set it up at 11 ft/lb
Max fill pressure is 220 bar
Huma reg is set at 100 bar
The reg does take up space in the air tube ..... so I'm not sure about what the shot count will be - but im not worried about that as I've got a portable charging solution.
A 500cc buddy bottle filled to 250bar 👍
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Robs5230 on September 26, 2020, 10:18:37 AM
Quote from: Daztilley on September 26, 2020, 09:22:17 AM
Looking to set it up at 11 ft/lb
Max fill pressure is 220 bar
Huma reg is set at 100 bar
The reg does take up space in the air tube ..... so I'm not sure about what the shot count will be - but im not worried about that as I've got a portable charging solution.
A 500cc buddy bottle filled to 250bar 👍
I was thinking of the exact same solution.
I'd be looking to whack a Yukon on one to use as a lightweight ratter.
I want a .177 one and wouldn't actually mind running it at sub6

Can you keep me updated on how you get on with it Daz? Your findings may encourage me to get one.
Sick of humping heavy rifles around at night and to be fair, I like single shot

Cheers Rob
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Daztilley on September 26, 2020, 10:38:19 AM
Yes will update the thread with my findings....

Just weighed the setup as it is in the photo ..... 2.02Kg / 4.4 lb
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Daztilley on September 26, 2020, 11:46:25 AM
Started the initial setup....

Accupell 14.3 gr
585 fps
10.8 ft / lb
Fill pressure 200 bar
Reg pressure 110 bar (indicated on gauge)

2 bar per shot = 45 shots (on reg)

The transfer port screw is 90% closed - so thinking of backing off the hammer spring and opening the transfer port to make it more efficient ....
But I am getting a small spike when it goes OFF REG - so its just a balancing act with the transfer port size and hammer spring......

But initially its looking good 👍
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Daztilley on September 28, 2020, 02:04:40 PM
Further setting up today.....
Turned the regulator down to 90bar and tweaked the tp and hammer spring
Pic of the results below - 40 shots with 14.3 grain Accupell
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Daztilley on September 29, 2020, 01:14:51 PM
Added a few bits.....

3d printed tube clamp with weaver rails
3d printed pellet dispenser
Laser
Torch / handgrip
Single point sling connector

Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Daztilley on October 17, 2020, 02:46:45 PM
Fitted my new .20 HW barrel from silco - 16mm 16"
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Daztilley on October 21, 2020, 03:15:21 PM
Fitted the bottle
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Bumpkin on December 22, 2020, 06:49:31 PM
A lot of fun for little outlay. Can't be bad!
Title: Re: PP 700
Post by: Billyboy on December 31, 2020, 07:29:06 AM
I don't know about the little outlay..mine stood me in over 400 quid before I sold it on lol