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Title: Shot count from 200cc
Post by: Remchester on June 01, 2021, 09:04:07 AM
How many shots should you get out of a 200cc bottle?
Rifle is a mk2 regd 15' barrel in .22 sub 12
I'm getting around 100 or so I was thinking more like 150 ish?
Title: Re: Shot count from 200cc
Post by: Tim_B on June 01, 2021, 09:29:07 AM
Quote from: Remchester on June 01, 2021, 09:04:07 AM
How many shots should you get out of a 200cc bottle?  Rifle is a mk2 regd 15' barrel in .22 sub 12 I'm getting around 100 or so I was thinking more like 150 ish?
I am getting around 90 shots from my 200cc, however its a 10.5 inch barrel and reg is at 140.  Super consistent thought.  I think 150 is a good target for a .22 with longer barrel.
Title: Re: Shot count from 200cc
Post by: Remchester on June 01, 2021, 09:38:47 AM
Quote from: Tim_B on June 01, 2021, 09:29:07 AM
Quote from: Remchester on June 01, 2021, 09:04:07 AM
How many shots should you get out of a 200cc bottle?  Rifle is a mk2 regd 15' barrel in .22 sub 12 I'm getting around 100 or so I was thinking more like 150 ish?
I am getting around 90 shots from my 200cc, however its a 10.5 inch barrel and reg is at 140.  Super consistent thought.  I think 150 is a good target for a .22 with longer barrel.
I'm wondering if the reg settings are different for the 200cc? it was getting around 200 ish shots with a 280cc but can't see how the smaller bottle would effect reg settings ??
Title: Re: Shot count from 200cc
Post by: Mickyd on June 01, 2021, 01:08:01 PM
Have a look in airgun data  on here.md
Title: Re: Shot count from 200cc
Post by: Tim_B on June 01, 2021, 03:12:42 PM
Quote from: Remchester on June 01, 2021, 09:38:47 AM
Quote from: Tim_B on June 01, 2021, 09:29:07 AM
Quote from: Remchester on June 01, 2021, 09:04:07 AMHow many shots should you get out of a 200cc bottle?  Rifle is a mk2 regd 15' barrel in .22 sub 12 I'm getting around 100 or so I was thinking more like 150 ish?
I am getting around 90 shots from my 200cc, however its a 10.5 inch barrel and reg is at 140.  Super consistent thought.  I think 150 is a good target for a .22 with longer barrel.
I'm wondering if the reg settings are different for the 200cc? it was getting around 200 ish shots with a 280cc but can't see how the smaller bottle would effect reg settings ??

Changing bottles won't effect it much to be fair - just need the higher reg pressure because of the short barrel.
Title: Re: Shot count from 200cc
Post by: Remchester on June 01, 2021, 03:37:10 PM
Quote from: Tim_B on June 01, 2021, 03:12:42 PM
Quote from: Remchester on June 01, 2021, 09:38:47 AM
Quote from: Tim_B on June 01, 2021, 09:29:07 AM
Quote from: Remchester on June 01, 2021, 09:04:07 AMHow many shots should you get out of a 200cc bottle?  Rifle is a mk2 regd 15' barrel in .22 sub 12 I'm getting around 100 or so I was thinking more like 150 ish?
I am getting around 90 shots from my 200cc, however its a 10.5 inch barrel and reg is at 140.  Super consistent thought.  I think 150 is a good target for a .22 with longer barrel.
I'm wondering if the reg settings are different for the 200cc? it was getting around 200 ish shots with a 280cc but can't see how the smaller bottle would effect reg settings ??

Changing bottles won't effect it much to be fair - just need the higher reg pressure because of the short barrel.
Kinda knew that but you also never know till ya know.. had it out after a few checks and tweeks and from a 220 ish bar fill I got 100 shots and there's still around 140 bar left in the buddy bottle so I think I should be on target for around 150 ish shots from it that I thought I should/may get👍👍
Title: Re: Shot count from 200cc
Post by: KevG on June 01, 2021, 09:08:38 PM
something is not right some were.you should be getting just under 12 ftlbs with around 80 bar left in bottle.only things that can dictate shot count are fill pressure/reg set pressure/.barrel length/barrel port/valve body port.
KevG
Title: Re: Shot count from 200cc
Post by: Remchester on June 02, 2021, 08:16:24 AM
Quote from: KevG on June 01, 2021, 09:08:38 PM
something is not right some were.you should be getting just under 12 ftlbs with around 80 bar left in bottle.only things that can dictate shot count are fill pressure/reg set pressure/.barrel length/barrel port/valve body port.
KevG
I filled to about 220bar got 100 shots down to just under 140 bar
15 inch ish barrel standard 3mm barrel port
6mm front port on valve body had to shim valve spring about 4mm as valve body is a flat faced one so about 13mm body from memory
Reg is set at 90 bar think this could be a bit high thinking it should be nearer 80/85bar?
I shot a few over the chrono at the top of the fill it was running at 11.6 11.7 after the 100 shots at 140 bar left in bottle it was doing 11/11.3? Seems to have a bit of a curve kev? Reg seems fine no real creep and recovers ok?? And don't seem to spike much but I do think it's set a bit high so could get rid of the small spike by backing it off a bit I think
Title: Re: Shot count from 200cc
Post by: ngbod on June 09, 2021, 06:13:50 AM
My 0.20 Kev regged mk1 with 300mm choked barrel does 175 shots from 220 bar until it comes off the reg at 95  bar with 200cc bottle.
Title: Re: Shot count from 200cc
Post by: Kernal on June 10, 2021, 03:25:03 PM
Quote from: ngbod on June 09, 2021, 06:13:50 AM
My 0.20 Kev regged mk1 with 300mm choked barrel does 175 shots from 220 bar until it comes off the reg at 95  bar with 200cc bottle.

Thats nice to know ngbod,

Thanks for sharing that bit of information m8!

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